Part 2 – Profane Mystery Worldview Revealed

The MYSTERY Revealed Explaining the Difference
Between Natural Human Conception and IVF Replicated Conception


 

Contents

INTRODUCTION
Man’s Replication of Human Life. Please Study IVF Replicated Conception Very Carefully To See the Lack Of God’s Role in IVF Replication of Human Life.

 

As I have shown in PART 1, God’s role in natural human conception is very unique and necessary and many many many millenniums old! Please look for God’s lack of a role in IVF which stands for in vitro fertilization. It’s one of the more widely known types of assisted reproductive technology (ART).  IVF works by using human technicians and a combination of man made medicines/drugs/ injections and surgical procedures to prep the female recipient to harvest her eggs and to help the male’s sperm fertilize an egg(s). Human technicians then help the fertilized embryo(s) to be implanted in a potential mother’s uterus.
I believe the two processes between natural human conception and an IVF replicated conception are literally diametrically opposed!!! God the Holy Spirit is directly involved in each natural human conception process involving sexual intercourse using God the Father’s Book of Life that the Father wrote BEFORE creation, time, and history began using His foreknown thoughts and plans to put the right sperm from the right father with the right egg from the right mother to produce the right foreknown and predestined offspring. I ask you to compare this to an IVF replicated conception which has human technicians orchestrating human conception with a syringe and needle capturing a sperm then using a petri dish containing eggs and injecting the sperm into the egg{s} or just a petri dish containing a miss mash mix of eggs and sperm to achieve conception.

I am NOT pro IVF so for me to write an upbeat support for fertility clinics in general is not what I am about! What I am trying to do is to make available to couples who are researching and exploring IVF the necessary information about their participating in the IVF process and knowing some of the alternatives such as adoption of a naturally conceived offspring that has a “spirit” that are available to couples seeking fertility treatments. What the fertility clinics do tell their clients is that the IVF offspring is EXACTLY the same as a naturally conceived offspring. I do NOT believe this to be true!!! Each and every IVF replicated offspring does NOT have a God formed spirit in them!

Following are a couple of online articles describing the IVF process and its costs. Please note the amount of doctors/technicians/medications/drugs/injections and surgeries, etc. used in IVF replicated conception. I cannot find numbers to make a template to give us a clearer picture for any of the above workers and medication, etc. that would help us better understand the IVF process. Also please realize the pain, anguish, the emotional ups and downs, and length and amount of time that the female must go on this roller coaster trying to achieve a live bundle of joy – a BABY!

CHAPTER 1
Online Details on IVF

 

Online Article Giving Details on IVF “IVF (in vitro fertilization) is a term you may have heard before. As you start exploring what it could mean for you, know that you’re not alone. We’ve got your back.

Here’s a little bit about what to expect: “At the start of your IVF cycle, you may be prescribed medication that will allow your reproductive endocrinologist (RE) {human technician} greater control over the timing of egg retrieval and prepare your body for step 1 (controlled ovarian stimulation) below.

Step 1
“Controlled ovarian stimulation (COS) {What and how much drugs/medications/ injections and many technicians are used to cause this stimulation?}
The ovaries are stimulated to produce multiple eggs.
With COS, the goal is to stimulate the development of multiple eggs to increase the chances of producing a healthy embryo.
In order to produce multiple eggs, your doctor will prescribe medication to stimulate your follicles—which contain immature eggs—to grow using one or more fertility drugs, and will monitor development.
When your follicles have grown to an appropriate size, you’ll receive a “trigger shot” (a hormone injection) to trigger the final maturation of the eggs before they can be retrieved.

Step 2
“Egg retrieval
Eggs are retrieved from the follicles {through surgery}.
Before your doctor retrieves the eggs from your ovaries, she or he will give you pain medication or sedate you.
Then, she or he will use a probe, which is inserted in your vagina, to retrieve the eggs from the follicles in your ovaries {Is this painful? YES, but they give you drugs so you do not feel the pain!}.
The procedure usually takes less than an hour in the doctor’s office.

Step 3
“Sperm retrieval – Sperm is separated from the semen.
Semen is obtained by masturbation, or a special condom used during intercourse.
If the male’s semen is void of sperm, it may be obtained from the testicle {or from an outside independent donor}.

Step 4
“Fertilization {How many drugs/medications/injections are used in this process?}
Sperm is introduced to eggs {How is this done? By human technicians.}.
Partner or donor sperm will be mixed with your eggs {Using human technicians, any drugs or medications necessary?}.
The next morning, an embryologist {human technician} will check that the eggs are fertilized and developing properly and will continue to monitor them.

Step 5
“Embryo transfer {This also requires a surgical procedure by a technician}:
Embryos are transferred directly into the uterus.
Your doctor will work with you to determine how many embryos will be transferred, and at what time. More than one embryo increases the chance of pregnancy, but also increases the chance of multiples (twins or triplets).
Once the number is chosen, your embryo(s) are transferred directly into your uterus via a catheter {administered by a technician}.”

CHAPTER 2
What does IVF Cost: An Overview:

 

“A complete In Vitro Fertilization cycle can cost anywhere from $4,700 to over $30,000. That’s an outrageously wild spread, but that’s the truth.  It all depends on who you’re asking and what it is you’re specifically asking. {Does the IVF process have accessories [bells and whistles] that can be purchased?} That’s because the total cost is dependent upon many factors, billed for by multiple parties (fertility clinics, pharmacies, genetic labs, etc.), and often takes multiple treatments to be successful.
“Before we break everything down in detail, let’s quickly touch on the three of the most common prices you’ll see when discussing the average cost of In Vitro Fertilization treatment here in the USA:
“The Cost of a Basic IVF Package:  Prices range greatly from as little as $4,700 here at CNY Fertility to around $20,000. The national average is around $12,000.  It includes everything you “need,” to do an IVF cycle but it doesn’t include many important components on an IVF procedure like medications that an overwhelming majority of patients will encounter.
“The Total cost of a Single IVF Cycle: Here at CNY, the total cost of an IVF cycle is usually around $8,000 but can go over $30,000 at some clinics with a national average around $20,000.  It includes the costs of “add on” services like ICSI, medications, and more that are typically encountered in an IVF cycle. The exact cost at each clinic will depend on what medication protocol and add on services are used.
“The Total Cost to Bring Home a Baby with IVF:  The cost to bring home a baby could indeed be as low as a one cycle total if that cycle is successful, though it’s safer to plan for an average that accounts for two IVF retrievals and a few FETs (the average couple undergoing IVF in the US undergoes two IVF cycles). At CNY, that price range is something between $16,000 and $20,000. The national average is in the range of $40,000-50,000. It is not uncommon to encounter those who have spent over $100,000 on treatment.”
The above material does not express the huge amount of pain and anguish the female patient must endure, but most “want to be mothers” will “grin and bear it” to be able to have their own live “baby.”

CHAPTER 3
IVF IMAGES:

Following are the images of the templates {prototype, pattern, model, guide – for reproducing many identical copies} for the IVF fertilization process. I will share with you what I believe is the difference between the templates involved in both processes {Natural conception PART 1 CHAPTER 7}. I believe a template is a pattern that is a guide/model for producing and then reproducing many identical copies of the same item. Wood working businesses and metal fabricating businesses have used templates that reproduce multiple identical copies of the same item for a long time.
The template {prototype, pattern, model, guide,} for the natural human procreation process through sexual intercourse is quite unique. To understand God’s preliminary role and work in each and every naturally conceived human offspring, go back to CHAPTER 7 and review and then compare “How Does IVF Work” found at the beginning of PART 2 of this study.

CHAPTER 4
Man’s Contrived Role in In Vitro Fertilization {IVF} Replicated Conception:

The IVF ICSI fertilization process image shows a hypodermic needle that is manned by a human technician who has drawn one human sperm from the 250 million sperm of the average male ejaculation and injected it into a human female egg. The selection of the egg and the sperm in the conception process is ALL done by humans with NO outside help from God thus “blasphemy of God the Holy Spirit” enters into the whole process!!!
Mark 3:28-29 Truly and solemnly I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever abusive and blasphemous things they utter; 29 But whoever speaks abusively against or maliciously misrepresents the Holy Spirit can never get forgiveness, but is guilty of and is in the grasp of an everlasting trespass {eternal sin}. AMP

This is the IVF ICSI template {prototype, pattern, model, guide, a gauge} fertilization process with the egg being fertilized by sperm using human technicians to facilitate the process. God the Holy Spirit is NOT involved!!!

Once eggs reach the lab, experts examine them to determine maturity and quality. Mature eggs are transferred into a special culture medium, placed in an incubator and within a few hours of egg retrieval are fertilized with sperm.
There are two ways {templates} to fertilize an egg: conventional insemination or intra-cytoplasmic injection (ICSI) {ICSI is the above illustration using the syringe and needle}. Which process is used will be determined by your IVF team (physicians and embryologists – human technicians) and depends on multiple factors related to the couple going through IVF. Both methods have approximately the same success rate. ICSI is used approximately 70% of the time when factors make fertilization less likely due to poor semen quality or previous IVF failure.
For the conventional method {template below}, sperm is placed in the culture medium in a small petri dish containing an egg; the sperm and eggs are incubated together in the dish in the lab, allowing the sperm to enter the egg on its own {Is there any human technicians or medications involved in this process?}. For ICSI {template above}, one sperm is injected into the cytoplasm of the egg using a needle and a sophisticated operative microscope. No matter which process is used, fertilization is checked the next morning.

Picture of IVF embryo – this is a fertilized human egg (also called oocyte) This is the morning after IVF egg retrieval when we check eggs for fertilization Male and female genetic material (DNA) are in the 2 pronuclei – center of the photo

I cannot find an IVF picture of an egg being fertilized by sperm in a petri dish. I wonder why? I have not been able to find how many technicians/medicines/ drugs/injections might be used after the fertilized egg is deposited into the mother’s womb to help stabilize the pregnancy. I believe this to be very important information to understand the technology used to give the IVF practitioners the success they have with full term IVF pregnancies.

CHAPTER 5
Damning Prophetic Scriptures – James 2:26, Revelation 17:8, and Revelation 13:8 Reveal the Lack of God’s Knowledge and Participation in IVF Conception.

 

How do we get from scripture being God’s Word to a prophecy of God? As I read the commentaries for the above verses, it becomes very apparent to me that the early theologians did not envision man ever reproducing “human kind/babies.” But if one views these verses as prophetic, they become real in 1978 with the producing by man of the first In Vitro Fertilization {IVF/test tube} human baby girl – Louise Brown. This certainly was a monumental feat of man’s use of technology to produce a supposedly complete living human offspring as the IVF supporters trumpeted. But the truth is that the IVF human technology success was actually the denying and thwarting of God’s ministry and work in the centuries from Eve that God gave life to over 108 billion humans in His image and likeness – it is called “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” which will never have forgiveness of the sin(s)! Do you think that God would give up this work in His procreation of man? I think NOT!!!
Mark 3:28-29 Truly and solemnly I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever abusive and blasphemous things they utter; 29 But whoever speaks abusively against or maliciously misrepresents the Holy Spirit can never get forgiveness, but is guilty of and is in the grasp of an everlasting trespass {eternal sin}. AMP

It does not take a “rocket scientist” to be able to discern the difference between God’s Way and man’s way, but what is NOT discernable is that the IVF offspring does NOT have a spirit because God the Holy Spirit was NOT involved at their conception to form one in them! We MUST realize that man CANNOT give what he does not possess! I can tell you about all of the gifts of the Holy Spirit, but I cannot give you any of them! Remember the previous image of the technician holding the needle with the sperm being humanly injected into the egg? Natural conception and IVF conception are two processes that are DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED!!! While BOTH may work, BOTH CANNOT BE RIGHT!!! Let’s study some scriptures that paint a damning IVF picture that is diametrically different from the natural process of human reproduction. Do you think that God would allow created man to usurp Him in His work/ministry? I strongly believe not!!!

Chapter 6
Viewing James 2:26, Revelation 17:8 and 13:8 As Prophetic Scripture.

 

James 2:26 For as the human body apart from the spirit {without a spirit} is lifeless, so faith apart from [its] works of obedience is also dead {No human spirit, No connection to God}. AMP
Revelation 17:8 The beast that you saw [once] was, but [now] is no more, and he is going to come up out of the Abyss (the bottomless pit) and proceed to go to perdition. And the inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been recorded in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world {I believe all naturally conceived offspring names were written in God’s Book of Life from before time began!} will be astonished when they look at the beast, because he [once] was, but [now] is no more, and he is [yet] to come.  [Dan 7:3.] AMP
Revelation 13:8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him {the beast}, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain. NASU

For centuries the above scriptures were given various thought in commentaries by different theologians, but I believe in 1978 with the advent of the first IVF baby, these scriptures literally became prophetic. They brought to light there would be replicated humans who would NOT be created by God NOR foreknown by God NOR predestined by God meaning they were not any part of His plans, and they NEVER belonged to Him in any way, shape, or form EVER! Let’s look at some scriptures which may help us to see these replicated, incomplete, counterfeit IVF people more clearly.
Psalms 104:30, 29 When You {God the Father} send forth Your Spirit and give them breath {of life}, they are created, and You replenish {repopulate} the face of the ground {This is God the Holy Spirit’s work in human reproduction}. 29 When You hide Your face, they are troubled and dismayed; when You take away their breath, they die and {their body and soul} return to their dust {forever?}. AMP
Isaiah 42:5 Thus says God the Lord — He Who created the heavens and stretched them forth, He Who spread abroad the earth and that which comes out of it, He Who gives breath to the people on it and spirit to those who walk in it: AMP
Job 33:4 [It is] the Spirit of God that made me [which has stirred me up], and the breath of the Almighty that gives me life [which inspires me]. AMP
Acts 17:25 Neither is He served by human hands, as though He lacked anything, for it is He Himself Who gives life and breath and all things to all [people].  [Isa 42:5.] AMP
James 2:26 For as the human body apart from {without} the spirit is lifeless {spiritually dead}, so faith apart from [its] works of obedience is also dead {Man at his/her conception MUST have a spirit formed by God to ever have faith in God and to desire a redeemed relationship and His foreordained ministry for you!}. AMP
Job 34:14-15 If [God] should set His heart upon him [man] and withdraw His [life-giving] spirit and His breath [from man] to Himself {while IVF babies do NOT have a spirit, they do possess the “breath of life.”}, 15 All flesh {of man} would perish together, and man would turn again to dust {as physically dead permanently with no resurrection, no after life, and be eternally separated from God and everything forever. They are DEAD DEAD!!!}.  [Ps 104:29; Eccl 12:7.] AMP

I believe that the Christian Church MUST take a stand against the blasphemous work of the IVF and artificial insemination fertility clinics and their staff who brazenly claim their replicated human offspring is 100% legitimate!
2 Corinthians 11:12-15 {Paul’s rant against false Christians} But what I do, I will continue to do, [for I am determined to maintain this independence] in order to cut off the claim of those who would like [to find an occasion and incentive] to claim that in their boasted [mission] they work on the same terms that we do. 13 For such men are false apostles [spurious, counterfeits], deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles (special messengers) of Christ (the Messiah). 14 And it is no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light; 15 So it is not surprising if his servants also masquerade as ministers of righteousness. [But] their end will correspond with their deeds. AMP

I believe scripture states that God foreknew and predestined each and every naturally produced {through human sexual intercourse} human offspring from BEFORE creation began as previously stated in Psalms 139:16, but scripture states there are people living whose names are NOT written in God’s Book of Life from BEFORE creation and time began. They were NOT foreknown nor predestined by God!!! They do NOT belong to God – they are NOT part of – they are unknown strangers/foreigners in His creation!!! THEY ARE NOT HIS CREATURES!!!

The questions become, “Just WHO are these people, how did they get here, what is their physical and spiritual makeup?” I believe they do NOT have a God formed spirit which is intended to enable man to spiritually communicate with God.
While naturally conceived man’s physical body will die, his/her spirit is immortal and will live for the rest of eternity either with God in heaven or separated from Him in Hell.
Zechariah 12:1 THE BURDEN or oracle (the thing to be lifted up) of the word of the Lord concerning Israel: Thus says the Lord, Who stretches out the heavens and lays the foundation of the earth and forms the spirit of man within him {at his/her conception}: AMP
Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust [out of which God made man’s body] return to the earth as it was, and the spirit shall return to God Who gave it. AMP
John 11:25-26 Jesus said to her, I am [Myself] the Resurrection and the Life. Whoever believes in (adheres to, trusts in, and relies on) Me, although he may {physically} die, yet he shall {continue to} live {spiritually forever}; 26 And whoever continues to live and believes in (has faith in, cleaves to, and relies on) Me shall never [actually] die at all. Do you believe this? {I actually believe this applies to ALL naturally conceived humans saved or unsaved! Every one’s spirit lives forever but where does it live – with God in heaven or in Hell?!} AMP
What is the importance of a person’s spirit? I believe it is twofold – it provides a way for humans to communicate with God through His Holy Spirit AFTER they are “Born Again.” Many Christians believe their spirit is inactive BEFORE they are redeemed, but before I was saved MY spirit was alive and well serving Satan and his wickedness in the world! I believe one’s spirit also gives God a play by play record of a person’s life from their conception through their physical death. This is God’s permanent record of your life!

SUMMARY
for PART 2

 

As I stated at the beginning of PART 1 of this study, I must clarify the fact that to scripturally prove God’s ministry/work in each naturally produced {by a husband/ male and wife/female having sexual intercourse} human physical/spiritual offspring is relatively easy, BUT to prove that an IVF replicated physical offspring does NOT have a God formed spirit is NOT easy or maybe even impossible because the spiritual nature is not easily discernable in humans. I do not personally know any IVF adults to talk to them about their spiritual nature – do you think you have a “spiritual nature?, Do you believe in the true, living, loving God?, Have you read any parts of the Bible? Are you a sinner?, Do you need a Savior?” Etc., etc.
That being said, it is my prayer that this booklet will reach out to the numerous couples who are having fertility problems to seek other alternatives such as adoption of a naturally conceived offspring to have a family. At least if the adopted child came through natural means {a father/male and a mother/woman producing an offspring through sexual intercourse}, it has a spirit and is a complete person.
As I stated at the beginning of PART 2 – INTRODUCTION, I am NOT a proponent for fertility clinics who are trying to play God using human technology to usurp – blasphemy God the Holy Spirit to deny and thwart Him in the process of human reproduction!
Because I do not support fertility clinics, I went online to find information about IVF along with two images showing the technology used in ICSI and the conventional insemination methods. I also included some of the costs that are involved with IVF. I pray that this material was correct in portraying these things correctly! I do NOT believe that God the Holy Spirit is involved in either of these methods for reproduction which is an unpardonable sin – again, blasphemy of God the Holy Spirit.
I also believe that God foreknew this was going to happen and gave us scripture to help us put it in its proper perspective – that He absolutely is NOT in any way shape or form involved in the IVF process and most all forms of AI {Artificial Insemination}.
I have not done as good a job of finding the facts about IVF as I would have liked, but it is the best I can do for now. I do not know what you have learned from this book, but I do pray that you have come to know there is a living, loving God Who is directly involved in ALL the lives of His foreknown and predestined offspring from BEFORE creation, time, and history began. They include people from the beginning of man, His chosen People, unsaved people, and redeemed Saints – again, ALL of His foreknown predestined offspring:
Hebrews 13:5b for He [God] Himself has said, I will not in any way fail you {My children} nor give you up nor leave you without support. [I will] not, [I will] not, [I will] not in any degree leave you helpless nor forsake nor let [you] down (relax My hold on you)! [Assuredly not!]  [Josh 1:5.] AMP

IVF does NOT come close to enabling an intimate personal relationship with God in one’s life. I pray that you can see your need of a Savior Who is ONLY Jesus Christ – the Son of Man/God the Son:
Titus 2:13 {We are} Awaiting and looking for the [fulfillment, the realization of our] blessed hope, even the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Christ Jesus (the Messiah, the Anointed One), AMP
Following is a short prayer asking God the Father to forgive you of your sins and allowing Christ to become your Savior:
Dear Heavenly Father – I am a sinner. Please forgive my sins and restore me into Your adopted family. May You, Jesus Christ, and Your Spirit come to live in me.  May your Spirit and Your Word guide my life. In Jesus’ Name I pray – AMEN.

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